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Do we really need an entire paragraph devoted to explaining what cocaine and crack are in the middle of a gang article? I understand that it's related, but there's no reason to expound on the subject when it can just be linked. Bradenmcg 15:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Washington High is said to be located in Fremont, California. When you click on Fremont, it says its a neighborhood by San Jose, which is 6 hours away from LA. Is there a mistake there?
I've heard a few theories on how the name "Crip" came about... anyone got books on their history? One theory (i believe!) is that they were first called the "cribs" or came from "cribs", another gang. The second says the letters stand for something - "community, something, something", ... and so forth. I've seen both theories in books and on television documentaries but I'm not sure which to start with. Basically, if you've got a book about these street gangs please add a line or two until we can flesh it out. Don't be afraid to simply say "One theory is..." "...as Mrs. Writer writes in SOME BOOK". We can add all theories here, just cite your sources. I wish I had the information on hand, I hope this helps someone start off. JoeHenzi 22:50, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Community Revolution in Progress, it started as a Black Power movement, but ended up as a gang.
The name Crip is not an acronym for anything, that is a complete fallacy. If you read the book "Blue Rage, Black Redemption" by Stanley Williams' who is the co-founder of the original Crips gang, you will read in the beginning of the book that the original name of the gang was Cribs but it changed to Crips simply because of member mispronunciation. - Patrice Azi
C.R.I.P.S. is an acronym. It stands for Clandestine Revolutionary International Party Soldier. It was cofounded by Stanley "Tookie" Williams. Read Sanyika Shakur's (real name Kody Scott, aka Monster Kody)book Italic textMonster. He explains this in his book. It makes sense too, becuase the gang was formed around 1980, at the end of the reign of the Black Panthers, a similar organization pushing for the advancement of black people.
C.R.I.P. is also thought to have a similar acronym to the above. Current Revolution In Progress.
In the book do or die by leon bing, the formation of the crips and the choice of name is explained in full. in the early sixties there were many independent street gangs in Los Angeles' Compton area. Also residents of the area were many people of asian descent, often immigrants or first-generation, and they were advised by police to travel in groups to avoid gang violence. A group of what would become the crips attacked a group of elderly asians, presumably for money, etc. the police, taking a report from the victims, heard an old women repeatedly refer to one of her attackers as a "crip", due to his limp and use of a cane. The name stuck. Do or Die is also a wonderful read for those interested in the formation and politics of gangs in late 80's/early 90's Los Angeles.Gilgamesh Rex 19:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The Crips were founded in 1971 not 1980.
Most Crips are actually associated with a much larger gang nation group called the folks. Conversely, the bloods are in the people nation. Crips orginally were called crib gangs. Because most of the members lived on smaller avenues called "crib avenues". Eventually the name changed to crips. The folk nation (which once again includes the crips) adopted the Star of David as their symbol for David Barksdale or King David, a leader the folk nation. Also, the crips wear everything to the left, although the original folks, started in chicago, wear everything to the right. The Gangs have been known to join nation sets due to the need to ally against more powerful gangs. Nation sets also allow for drug trafficking and distribution. In addition, gang nations are important in prisons because prisoner's come from a vareity of cities and gangs. This allows individual gang members to be allied in prison and form gangs without dishonoring their local gang. For information regarding gang nations: [http://www.gang-busters.com/dress%5Chtml%5Cfolks_and_people.aspx Gang nation
The Original Crips was not part of the folk nation. There are no Crips in Chicago. The Crips in LA are not affliated with the Folk nation. Only Crips in other citys do that but they are not real Crips. So the article should not contain Folk nation in it. But after all Crips is the most popular gang in America .There is also to be crips in Illinois,such as Oak Park, Forest Park and in Oak brook. They all maybe Insane crips.
The Crips and Folks, in the beginning, fought side-by-side with the Bkloods, until Hoover, David, and John let a petty argument get out of hand. The Crips didn't adopt anything. The Crips and Folks have always fought side-by-side, only fighting by a Bklood's side, under special circumstances, before the two sides turned on each other. Any Crip or Folk that fights by a Bklood's side, outside of special circumstances, is a $7o6. Nothing more, nothing less. -Reaper Of Souls Angel Crips firstname.lastname@example.org
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/gangs/index.html There are about 21 pages on gangs and their sets. Page 13 discribes L.A based gang's, such as the blood and crips, and stating that Bloods traditionally align themselves with the People Nation and Crips with the Folk Nation. I really like the website, has a lot of info on different gangs and such. -Maliki786 15:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
CRIP the word stands 4 nothing please read the memoir of the co-founder Stanley Tookie Williams , you will also find that the color blue is worn in memory of Tookie best friend Buddha (R.I.P.).I have read and own meny books on the subject of Crips,such as Monster ,Do or Die , Blue Rage Black Redemption , and all of Tookies childrens books . For good history read blue rage black redemption by Stanley Williams.
The Crip walk is NOT a dance, but a celebration that a Crip performs when he kills a rival.
It's a dance, regardless. It just has more significance than most modern dances, which tend to be basically frivolous. In anthropological terms the C-walk is comparable to tribal war-dances such as practiced by Maoris and native Americans.
The Crip Walk is no more a dance, than standing in your garage, makes you a car. The Crip Walk isn't just about celebrating the killing of a rival. It's also more of a statement for what makes you who or what you are. It's a way of saying who you are, what you are, and what you're willing to do, when given the chance to do so. It's also a way of acknowledging the other Crips & Folks in the world, and showing them the respect that they deserve, for standing up for what they believe in, and being willing to do whatever is necessary to get the job done right the first time. The Crip Walk is a way of life that represents you as a person. Person being a Crip or Folk. The Crip Walk has different ways of being performed, while staying true to a common theme. The differences are a direct reflection of the individual involved. Whether they do the Walk itself, or Stack while doing the Walk, it's still a direct reflection of the individual doing so. Making assumptions about things you know nothing about, doesn't make you appear smarter. It makes you appear to be an idiot. Be true to who you are, not something you're not. Esto Quod Esse Videras: Be who you seem to be -Reaper Of Souls Angel Crips email@example.com
The crip walk is in no way shape or form a dance of any sort. When you see it in music videos it is meant to show love to all the true crips watching. There are various forms and meanings that go along wit the crip walk also. Crips will do it after an intitiation, after they put in work, as a signal during a job. A word to the unwise, DO NOT CRIP WALK IN PUBLIC. If you do the crip walk in public you stand a good chance of being taken out the game by a bklood member. Playbkoy G
A very good chance. Take this information to heart. America, beware! 220.127.116.11 01:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Crips crip walk to insult rivals by spelling their set out. For example, if a crip see's bloods or any other rival territory gang in the vicinity say as across the street, he'll crip walk to spell his set out to insult him.
lol its just a funny dance
The Crip Walk is a dance in the basest sense, that one moves their feet and body in a specific way, usually to a beat in one's head. It is not a dance in a way that every dance is, in that you do it to music, and they have no real meaning, other than to look cool, except for, say, tribal dances. The Crip walk has a real meaning, and means more than, say, the "ReRun Dance". The Crip Walk has a deaper meaning, and isn't meant for any music or anything like that.
So if moving your feet is defined as a dance, then you walking down the street, is dancing, huh? You're moving your feet to a beat in your own head, whether you realize it or not. There are people that jog, or go for a run, while listening to music. They're not dancing. The Crip Walk has a meaning, despite what stupid people seem to believe. The Crip Walk is a way of saying that you're willing to stand up for what you believe in, and it can be used to test others to prove themselves as well. Why do people talk shit about things they know nothing about? -Reaper Of Souls Angel Crips firstname.lastname@example.org
I have noticed two well known people wearing the blue flag out their back trouser pocket.
:::a lot of people wear red n Bklue n it dont mean nuttin. Im a Crip...King David, 8-Ball, C-51 and i wear red T's sumtimes. It aint bkout what u wear Cuz i alwayz 6ot my fla6 out. You'll neva see me roCCin a red bandana thou6h...:::
If one watches the movie "Menace II Society," one should realize that most if not all of the main charecters are wearing the color blue or other Crips style clothing throughout the film. This is because the directors were originally going to make Caine and O-dog members of a Crips gang but changed there minds because they wanted people in ghettos throughout the country to relate to the film, not just members of the Crips gang.
Colors don't mean shit nemore. Wearin colors is a sure fire way ta let tha cops know what u rep. Most ppl now use tattoos and hats yeah some ppl still wear flags n certain colors but it's jus gon get u locced up earlir. tattoos are tha main way ppl tell each other apart.
The fact about the gang color is mentioned far too often.
There is no 21st crip gang in Long beach. Daz is from Rolling 20's Crips in Long Beach. The only real gang banger that is from the nsane Crips is OG Tray Dee a.k.a "Tracy D." A real gang member is a gangster that actually attended gang meetings and is respected by the members of his his own gang. In due time I will explain more.
Corections about Insane, 21st and rolling 20's being the same gang. I want to make this clear- Insane and Rolling 20's are different gangs and hate each other. We have been killing each other for years and it's never going to change. Its been like that for 35-40 years now. 21st is only a street that the majority of our OG's grew up around and snoop made it famous. Both insane and 20's hung out on this street and that's how we became enemies. EA
Is there a 21st Street Mafia Crip gang??
...please be careful of grammar and fact-checking. You changed my page and wrote that Daz Dillinger is from Insane Crip, when he's actually from 21st Street. If you're going to make changes, don't do so without discussing them with me.
This is the only method of contacting the site runners without clicking on 300 links, but I think I have some information that you might be interested in involving the origin of the gang name C.R.I.P. or the crips. Crip stands for Community.Revolution.In.Progress. The CRIPS were started as a result of police targeting african men after the weapons ban. This resulted in the CRIPS banning together and traveling from place to place in large numbers to scare off the cops that would often beat and arrest african americans due to the color of there skin.
Thanks for reading, Dirthac820@yahoo.com
Crips were originally called Cribs.. Community revolution in black society.. it later became Crips.
jeeze I always thought it was "crypts"...i've apparently been miseducated...
Unfortunately, everyone above me is wrong. In the book "Blue Rage, Black Redemption," written by Stanley Williams, co-founder of the original Crips gang, Williams asserts that the name Crips is not an acronym. Nor does the name exist because any of the original members were crippled or walked with canes. The original name of the gang was Cribs but it changed to Crips simply because of member mispronunciation.
i own both books blue rage , and do or die. who would better know facts some lady leon bing or Stanley Williams . Williams co-founded the Crips.he refused to do an interview with Leon Bing do to fear of being misquoted.if you read 3(blue rage , monster , do or die) books you will find that the best fact based story comes from Mr. Williams. so please do some research on your history or ask a real G !!! XLOC EAST SIDE E.T.G.C.
CRIPS stands for Community Revolutionary Inner-Party Service.
I'm not sure we need so much listing & conjecture as to the affiliations of individual rappers (especially relatively unknown ones). It does not provide any useful information...the affiliation of others (especially their specific sets) is not useful, accurate, or very fair to the people listed. It also cheapens the article a bit and may be the cause of some people's complaints that the article glorifies gangs. If you disagree, please say so other wise I'll make changes within a week or so. Reggaedelgado 17:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I aint gonna talk like I know for sure but I do know that Bad Azz has claimed on prior songs that he is from Long Beach Insane... if you can validate this than cool otherwise it's just a good place to start...
Actually, Bad Azz was Originally from Water Front Piru in Wilmington Ca. That is aprrox 15mins from Long Beach. He moved to Long Beach when he was a teen and attended Woodrow Wilson High School With his sister. Somehow it was leaked out that he was a Piru and the homies Pay-Dog and and Baby Trey Fingers From ICG (Insane Crip Gang) approached him and of coarse he denied it, saying he did not bang anymore. I think the beat him up real bad but that was 13years ago and I am getting old. Eventually he came back to school and he turned out to be a cool brother and he was never from Insane or 20's. He hung around some of both and eventually started to just represent long beach through his music. While I am on that subject rapper Swoop G originally was from Lantanna Bloc Crips in Compton and also moved to Long Beach when he was a teen. He kept it real and admitted he was from lantanna Bloc but was quickly converted to a Rolling 20 crip by his OG cousin Lil Swoop(Keo), is currently on California's Death Row. The only rappers that are from Insane crip is Tray Deee aka Tracy Dee from the the group "Tha eastsidaz." He was the first and only rapper from Insane to record a album. His is the oldest of all the other rappers and gets big respect because of his "G" status. During the Insane and rolling 20 truce Snoop formed the group the "East Sidaz" which consisted of Goldie Loc who is from 20's, and Tray Dee who is from Insane. Tray Dee was later removed from the group when he shot up Snoop's house over money he was owed. That is what the song Smiles and Frowns" is talking about. All the other rappers are from rolling 20's: Snoop, Lil Half Dead (ironically his brother big Half dead-RIP was from Insane and was killed by an insane on Elm steet, Daz, Warren G,all the members of the "Dove Shack", the TwinZ and even Domino had some affliations. Lil C-style is From 19st and there is only a hand full of them- they are no fator in the hood. I don't know where Kurrpt is from but he is not from Long Beach. If yall have any other questions please let me know. EA
I just know about the Lon
-- A catch-all solution might be to only keep the rappers that have their own pages on wikipedia.
says the founding was in 1971, and gives a simple reason for the change from Cribs to Crips: alcohol-induced dyslexia.
-From what I've read elsewhere, Raymond Washington is the originator of the Crips, founded in 1969. -Zelle II- 02:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
It seems odd to me that we have a clear explanation for the name in the history section, but then list other possibly origins. If the answer isn't clear, shouldn't that be stated in the history (and I can't back this up, but from my own reading I would think that the "cripple"="crips" story is the most prominent. I'm fairly centain that Leon Bing uses that explanation).
And, overall, this article could use a lot more verified sources. Where do we get the information, for example, that Vanilla Ice is a Crip? (a quick Google search didn't show anything to me). How do we know why the Crips stopped wearing so much blue? I have a hard time with thinking that a gang as disorganized, decentralized and splintered could even make a group decision. Couldn't it just be that fashions have changed?
Parts also feel POV: "Any analysis of the origins of the Crips and African-American Street Gangs in general requires an analysis of the deleterious effect of the demise of the Black Panther Party on Los Angeles neighborhoods."
There is a citation after that statement, but the above is still presented as fact. It isn't, it is an opinion: (a)That the death of the Black Panthers was "deleterious" and (b.) that this is the only ("required") method of analying the gang's creation.
I'm not changing anything at the moment, because I'm not prepared to. But this article feels extremely shaky, and some of the anon comments lead me to believe that someone considers themselves an expert and are using themselves as a source. Thoughts? Jordoh 03:42, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Vanilla Ice ??? A C.R.I.P. ?!? That's funny !!! I'm the One from the Gun. I am no expert, who can be? Things constantly change and evolve in the streets... but what better source for this site than someone who has actually been there from almost day one.(1974) Naw, I dont have every hoods' secrets... but I do know my hood and I know the overall history from the point of view of the SGuNs. But bottom line aint none of us getting paid off this site, it's just a cool outlet for the representation of our lifestyles in the logs of history. And for the prior comment on Blue... The only reason the colors is less prominant is because we all know that the police is hot on that sh**! Bangers have working brain cells too.
Crips is NOT a GANG! It is a TYPE of GANG! Saying you are a CRIP is not enough... You have to actually belong to a set, usually the one you live in. Gunone 19:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)GunOne Gunone 19:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
"BTW, somebody from Australia keeps posting the names of rappers I've never heard of ("C-Pup"?) and claiming they're Crips. This is laughable to me, because it sounds like certain fans of these Australian rappers are just trying to validate their image. I don't consider anybody who isn't C/B banging in Cali to be anything but a copycat/wanna-be, so I've excluded these people. Also, I'm still trying to confirm some of the other rappers on the list, many of whom were added without my input. I haven't been able to figure out if Guerilla Black is really from Palmer Blocc (and it seems unlikely to me, given that he moved to Compton fairly late in his life). "
Recently someone added a large number of names to the list of crips, first of all, I think it's important that this article not become Listcruft. These additions were also not referenced. It worries me, especially if some of these people are still living, that this could be seen as defamatory or libelous. Could someone add references? Unless there is some response I will remove those added today. Makemi 02:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
-- Might be an idea to just remove any that don't have their own wikipedia page. If they are so obscure that they don't, then there's little point having their name here.
I'm no big hip-hop fan but I'm almost definitly sure Snoop Dogg has crip affiliations, he dresses in blue alot of times, does the crip walk, tells non-crips to not do the crip walk among other things
For spider loc it says so in his page and Tray Deee's page says that he was an "og" and was charged with attempted murder by shooting at rival gang members on WC's page it says he does the crip walk and. Aside from that their isnt much evidence for the other ones (aside from being "gangsta rappers") 18.104.22.168 17:31, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I've tried to update/reference the list of entertainers affiliated with the Crips. While I'm really uncertain that there's any reason to have this list in the article, I've left any names that can be verfied in for the time being.
You guys gotta start watching the underground videos, everything isin't written in black and white but most of those guys are crips, and if not definitely heavily affiliated. I gotta say though, lotta good knowledge on here, some of it i didn't even know. That sad part is that set knowledge, no matter how hard you try to keep it right, changes from city to city.
yes very good work, but kurupt is a crip, imma find a reference
In Whats My Name (off snoops first album) he says "Robbin motherfuckers then I kill dem blood claats" HE has also been referred to as being a crip by several other rappers for what that is worth
WC or Dub C IS a Crip... Daz is Crip Too...Tray Deee is from Insane Crips...He's now in jail for attempted Murder...Kurupt is crip too...
Honestly I believe your not going to find too many references on the above people, most of these are trying to be "low key" (on the down low)...Snoop Dogg is a crip yes everyone knows this, he'll tell you in a minute but as for the rest of them, listen to their names, Spider Loc, Eazy, pay attention to the spelling, listen to their songs. Most of this guys are crips but your not going to find a reference for all of them and that real.
Both B.G. Knocc Out & Dresta are Nutty Blocc Compton Crips
BIGGIE AINT GANG RELATED... If some one is wearing blue it doesent mean he is a crip... you wear blue OK you are crip thats dumb... biggie aint gang related he has said that himself many times... --22.214.171.124 12:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the purple Grape St bandana image? I think it was worth having, as the Grape Street Watts Crips are pretty infamous, certainly one of the most well-known sets, and having the purple bandana image is no different to the green Lime Street Piru bandana over on the Bloods page. I'm not really moaning about it, just wondering why it was taken down. Doctor Atomic 02:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
BG the rapper from New Orleans is not any crip, blood or vice lord, get it right, NOBODY from New Orleans is a a gang member because we don't have gangs on colors, its all about wards/projects/neighborhoods, uptown/downtown, shit is about self and who you runnin with, aint none of that shit in NO because we run there ass out or get killed..A solja rag and different colors represent different wards and projects..
Don't leave out tha G Crips. You gotta mention these guys. They are described as the following:
G-Crips is the slang term for gentleman crips. This group like the crips are a gang, but unlike the crips the G-Crips consist of upper class English and Welsh aristocrats. The traditional dress of the G-crips is a blue dress shitrt under a blue sport coat with blue or black trousers and a blue or black top hat.The G-crips also usually carry a cane. The traditional side arm of the G-crips is the Ruger kmk-512 aka the crip cannon which they get from the IRA. Mostly as a jest the G-crips refer to each others a negroes instead of calling themselves the infamous N-word Probally the most famous G-crip group is the Hanover Crips which are based in Hanover,England. There are also G-crip groups in London, Essex, Greenwhich, Edinburgh and St.Andrews.
It doesn't really improve credibility when the description is taken from urbandictionary.com either. -J
In any case, the information is patently absurd. Hanover is not even in England. There are no gangs of any description in St.Andrews. And as for getting guns from the IRA, well what can I say????
what do u mean? WHO DOESN'T KNOW OR BELIEVE THAT PIRUS USED TO BE CRIPS? OR THAT THEY HAD BEEFED WIT THE WEST SIDE CRIPS, AND EVENUALLY BECME THE BLOODS?
I MEAN, EVEN IN THE STUFF THAT PROBALLY WASN'T TRUE LIKE THE PURPLE CITY BYRD GANG SHIT, I ONLY SAID THAT IT WAS A RUMOR, NOT THE TRUTH, GO TO THE HOOD AND LISTEN FOR ONCE.
and a put a source on my new editing part
I think you should add in Stanley William's middle name(Tookie). He deserves his recognition. Even if he is deader than hell right now. He may have been a criminal, but he only did it to survive. After all, most people only know him as Tookie, from his movie.
please respect the dead! Mr. Williams was nobel nomine 7 times and won the award for "a season for non violence" award and meny others. i do aggree about the middle name but he was also the 3rd (Stanley Tookie Williams III).
There are many Crip gangs across the U.S, known to be in just about every state, but they say that the Crips are expanding quikly around the U.S and outnumber The Bloods and any other rival gangs. Crips are mainly starting to become big in Illinois subarbs such ass Lawndale and Oak Park,Ill In Lawndale there mainly spotted to be on cannon ave(called Cannon Crips)and in Oak Park there starting to be on Madison ST.The east side of Oak Park,ILL. And in Oak Park,ILL the crips allies are the 4corner hustlers. Oak Park and Lawndale were once Peacefull neiberhoods,are now turning into gang neiberhoods. The Insane Crips in Illinois, colors are known to be Blue-white,gold. But for now there mainly in lawndale, there estimated to be about 85crips apart of the Cannon Crips crew they are known to have already have made crimes,possesion of drugs,graffiti and to have possesion of dangerous weapons and the Cannon Crips are known to have as much as 12 blocks in there pessesion.In Oak Park they say they are just starting there movements around the East Oak Park Madison st. area.In Lawndale the Cannon crips was known to be started im 2004 but in about May, 2006 Blacks start hanging around the very few crips that they were in Lawndale, and they had joined the gang. They say that you have to put in work to be a crip, such as sell drugs or battle a rival gang members. In Oak Park,ILL Crips has just started the movement this year(2006) and is exspanding quickly around East Oak Park,Ill.In Oak Park,Ill The crips are known to have 6 blocks in there territory.
To stem violence between the Crips and Bloods, a peace treaty was recently negotiated, most notably in Watts, the treaty being largely based upon the ideals laid forth by original Crip co-founder Stanley Tookie Williams in his "Tookie Protocol For Peace".
By whom? When? What is your source?
Rintrah 09:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
yea they got sum bKlue red shit Called pKurpKle 4 pKeaCe in slobKs N C^ripKz]
it3 i pKut tha Ks C^uzz is BK bKlood killa N PK pKiru killa, well idC wat ya think bKout it bKut if ya 2 make a pKerfeCt C^ripK artiCle ya gonna need tha name of tha bKiggest sets, N a list of rappKers 2, like eazy was KPCC snoopK was rollin 20s etc N if ya think ima online gangsta idC C^uzz im a soldier in SSLC, so w/e, if ya wanna noe more shit bKout C^ripKz juss ask, bKut im not gonna answer knowledge, knowledge is a set of questions u need 2 noe if u real C^ripK, sum of tha Qs r wats in ur Closet? wats unda ur bKed?
N i Cant tell ya tha answers so ya need 2 talk bKout knowledge
well w/e i was juss tryin 2 helpK wit this artiCle
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Cuz u crazii but I feel u...I'm actually having fun reading all this stuff that people have about the Crips when in reality, they really dont kno nothing about it. I am a 18 year old female,african american that is a known gangmember from Watts born and raised, highschool graduate, and in college curently, graduated in the top 10% of my class, been shot, and had a beautiful daughter, been to jail and everything Eastlake and Y.A for a year...bacc and forth, still an active gangmember till this day and I just proved yall whole theroy wrong...the sterotype you people have on what a gangmember is suposed to be is all wrong. I've been gang banging since the age of 9 and I won't stop but I have my head on straight. With the guy above me with all the C and K and all that...it is only dialouge as you said, he just shows his appreciation of the Crips Gang, as do I, yet I believe that you are wrong in stating that it shows lack of intelligence, cuz I can say that using the million dollar words you do shows that you snobby and "no-at-all" and I beg you do not try to take the offense to what I have said i am jsut trying to prove a point.
add [[pl:Crips]] please Is there any significance to the date April 3rd? It comes up in several references including a lyric in the song "Steady Dippin'". Just curious...
i'd suggest "poor people"
even though you cannot find a reference to WC as being a crip in songs by other rappers they all say that he is from 111 N hood crip
are you an idiot he was explaining how WC is a crip which in the above articles was said not to be one b/c of ref problems
Lloyd banks never said he was a crip or anything. He has said it him self that blue is his favourite colour and that is why he wears it not because he is trying to be a crip to increase incredibility
Exactly Just because someone rocks yellow for example juelz santana doesnt mean hes affiliated to the latin kings and also the touch it video has a theme of colours (Busta himself is wearing red in the bit with him and the Flipmode squad that doesnt mean theyre bloods.) Mary J. Blige's wearing white,X's rocking black and Papoose wears green doesnt mean hes affiliated to the Grape St. Crips! I think that piece of the article deserves deletion! Actually on a G-unit radio mixtape Banks states "I'm from a blok where they sell crakk and Cripped up" take it how you want it. Also Young Bucc& Spider Loc is Crip so it's not that hard to see him being Crip, Game always calls them G-unot or G-unit Crips so it's some truth to his affiliation.
I would like to remind some of the editors that this is an article about a criminal group of thugs, thieves and murderers, not some kind of pop band or chivalrous order.
I understand that MTV may have added to the popularity of "ghetto" stereotypes, but apart from their notability there's nothing about this group of people that makes them particularily special, let alone worthy of fanboism.
As for the discussion about Crip Walking: it's a dance. You don't call it a dance because you don't like the ring of it, but it's got about as much to do with "walking" as eurythmy and can only be described as a "dancing walk" at best.
Also, a rule of thumb: if you can afford Internet access and know how to edit Wikipedia, chances are good you're not a ghetto kid, so don't pretend to be one. There's nothing particularily cool about being one in the first place, so why bother pretending? These kids have it difficult enough without someone attempting to imitate them, shrink-wrap it and sell it to those better off so those can pretend to be "in touch" with "the street".
The only thing catchy about a "gangsta" life is that it's usually high on sex and drugs and ends way before any of the after-effects have a chance of kicking in (that is to say, you probably don't make it past your teens or twens). If it's sex and drugs you want, you can get those anytime you want already -- and if not, how likely is it you'd be capable of archieving any kind of position as a "gangsta" where you could if you already can't make it in a civilised setting? If it's early death you want, there's easier ways to accomplish that than to do the dirty work for a bunch of thugs.
iz not a bkunch of thugs nicca is a fuccin family, damn loc ya dont noe wat ya talkin bkout--EZ 05:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
nicca y u gettin smart, idc wtf ya niccas speak, ya wrong crip is not a fuccin criminal group, is a family--EZ 22:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- is 'idc' just an altered version of 'idk' - as in 'i dont know'? just makes for easier reading to know what something says, thanks in advance Zero187 01:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
aight am sorry bout talkin like dat Rintrah, it juss gets me mad, dat ppl say dat crips is juss a bunch of thughs, cuz is not, again am sorry i juss hav this temper lol --EZ 00:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
yup them days r over, but im still proud of bing crip C51 EZ 19:20, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
what do u mean whats the point? im crip and proud--EZ 00:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
well it stated as a family, but now is just about the money--EZ 05:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Let's start this off by saying that i'm not hood at all, whatsoever. But, from what i have listened to and read gangsters say in their own words, the "ghetto star" lifestyle is the only real choice available in the inner-city. Ashmodai, i agree with you that the commoditization of the lifestyle is unfortunate, but i might suggest that perhaps questioning other users "legitimacy" due to their ability to access the internet and make a wikipedia account is not in good faith. just a thought. lets work on the article, rather than debating the rationality of the many choices we all make.Gilgamesh Rex 21:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
--Eastside Crip 22:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)== Fake information ==
Well if I may say something, My boyfriend is part of a crip gang and has been for over 10 years. I have meet his friends who are also in the gang with him. I have watched them personally "crip walk" and throw up all the gang signs. They have tattoos of the 6 point stars and the pitch folk on them. I have read the literature and learned all the information myself that has come from lots of other crips. It's a hard life to be in a gang and its even harder get out of one. I have seen lots of things that i didnt want to see but shit happens. I love him with all my heart and if this is the life he chooses then im there for him. watching him hold his best friend in his lap that had been shot in the head is a life touching situation. He is only 28 and i am 26. we have a son together who is going to live on in his name god forbid something happen to him. for all of you who think that this kind of lige is a joke...it is not. I deal with it everyday.
I know what you mean. C-walkin, and watchin ur back, watchin ur boys die isn't shit someone wants to see. But for a G it's all u see, every day and u can only do so much ta stop it from happenin ta ur fam. I've got 4 kids, two girls and two boys. They've watched their uncles get shot in the front yard they know to get on the floor if there's shots. This shit isn't a game it's real shit. This shit isn't for anyone. man it's a fucced up life to be in. U can't get out, U can't even hang ur fuckin flag nemore. Bacc when it started it wuz all bout keeping the community u lived in safe NOT about drugs or money. It was watchin tha backs of your family and keepin shit from happenin. Down the line it got all bout drugs n money n fuckin girls. At least wit everyone else. It also got to be bout killing someone cause of a color, when it started it wuzn't like that it wuz boys hangin on corners makin sure that ppl in they hood was safe. Ya I'm a G who the fuck cares? I don't go rob stores n shit I don't need tha fuckin money or tha drugs. I kno the history I kno wut it wuz before it started and I kno wut it's become n I don't like it. It ain't no fuckin joke.
I'll agree with that on you cuzz, Crip has lost it's tru values in these last 20 years. It get's me more pissed knowing that there's Crip on Crip violence for some stupid shit. If it was possible, one day, I would like to see Crips (ALL OF THEM) working together for the tru first cause that we had. C~~Eastside Crip~~C
Boo-fuckin' hoo, losers. Do something constructive with your lives. And what does this have to do with anything on wikipedia? If you're going to bitch and moan like little kids, do it with your "homies". 126.96.36.199 02:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me that instead of improving the article, alot of time is being spent by editors trying to translate the unrequired [read: unreferenced] information being passed by alleged "Cripks" in the discussion. I suggest that someone should clean up the discussion via removing any ongoing conversations and backtalk from "gangsta's" about whether their lifestyle is valid or not, and try to stick to the facts of the article and how it can be improved. If noone gives me a good reason why I shouldn't do this within the next 5 days or so, i'm going to go ahead and clean up the discussion.--FrogKermit 04:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
clean it up, im just saying, im a crip, if you want info ask me --EZ 22:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
why "clean up" the articles, actual discussion from actual crips who have been through what you guys are trying to investigate on doesn't make any since. Just like some people on here, a person may get the wrong information, either from a article that has false information a documentary, you try to get all your information from the source...a actual CRIP
Well I guess you can say that about all references unless you talk and can verify and quote actual known gangmembers..but see how far your going to get with that...what these people are saying is for real, and you can tell a fake from the real...well you should..I've read some postings on here of people saying that they are experts in this subject...how are you an expert if your not living the life...
when the crabs spread out of LA and teamed up with wannabe GD's they stole the lit the fake GDs managed ta steal and made a 8ball fake alliance and now they claim 6's. just like the slobs stole the 5 from fakeass out of town vicelords. true shit and i aint got no links im a witness to this shit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 7LonCkity9 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
Okay, Since you probably just dont understand gang language then I'll break it down to you.
Crabs : Disrespect word used towards Crips
G.D.'s : Gangster Disciples/Growth & Development, A black street gang/organization from Chicago
"Stole The Lit" : Stealing gang literature or "Knowledge"
8-Ball Alliance : A alliance between the Gangster Disciples and the Crips that started in a meeting in Kansas City in 1993. The meeting was actually made to make the G.D.'s and Crips around America to become allies, and nothing else. But it caused alot of mix-ups, and some Crip sets took gang knowledge from G.D.'s, took the 6 Point Star (a G.D. symbol in which every point of the star has a meaning) and started giving honor to G.D. creators, such as King David Donise Barksdale (deceased) and King Larry Hoover (incarcerated). When all of this happened, King Larry Hoover called off or "broke" the 8-Ball in 1995, but due to the widespread affiliations of the G.D.'s and Crips in the U.S., many gangs did not hear that this happened, and there are still gangs that claim the 8-Ball. Some 8-Ball gangs also know that this happened, but choose to still claim it. This is not a problem in Los Angeles or Chicago, but in other sattelite cities such as New York, Atlanta, New Jersey etc. there is alot of confusion.
6's and 5's are just star symbols used by the Folk and People Nations of Chicago.
I'm a strait representa of da Rollin 60 N-H00D Crip. All my N-H60D Rollin 60 niggas stand da fuCC up cuzz!!!! Cuzz Luv R.I.P. Tookie
The People Nation and Folk Nation are not gangs - they are alliances under which gangs are aligned.
A simple comparison might be the National and American baseball leagues. The National League is not a team - it is the alliance under which teams like the LA Dodgers and Atlanta Braves are aligned. The American League is the alliance under which the Baltimore Orioles and New York Yankees are aligned taken from: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/gangs/
The way yall make this seem is like a game and you people are trying to analyze every part of this game....a set like stated above is a gang in question. What ever gang your trying to discuss well is also called a set. A set is your hood, your turf, your home. Simple as that, without that fancy wording and all that...plain and simple.
A SET is your hood, your turff, the streets your hood is located on. Not to put sets out there but Bounty Hunters you can say set starts on 114th St and (blah blah) to 112 and so and so...and like I said I believe that the best way to get the best understanding about a subject is to go to the actual source...the Jordan Downs is a set, there is a gang that claims territory to those streets so yes the Jordan Downs in Watts is a set...jsut like the Nic's, thats the set of the Bounty Hunters...
whoever wrote that section on entertainers who are crips forgot G Malone and maybe someone should mention Ice cube and Xzibit who were both afilliated with the crips.
People's Nation sets: (excluding Bloods) Latin Kings Vicelords Spanish Lords El Rukns Bishops Gaylords Latin Counts Kents
Folk Nation sets: (excluding Crips) Black Gangster Disciples Black Disciples Gangster Disciples Imperial Gangsters La Raza Spanish Cobras Latin Eagles Latin Disciples Maniac Latin Disciples Simon City Royals Spanish Gangster Disciples Two Sixers International Posse
I'm adding this for future editors of this article. There are a group of people starting to spread an alternate history of the Crips. The history they have come up with is false and politically motivated.
They are spreading stories and writing histories that say that the Crips were a non-gang political offshoot of the Black Panthers. The second part of the story says that the FBI/Hoover had a secret program to remove the "good" Crip leaders and manipulate the organization to fight itself.
None of that is true. The people writing the false histories are basically finding people who nobody remembers, making them experts on everything that happened, and then putting words in their mouth which they write down as if it were the truth.
The Crips were never a political organization. Its always been a gang. 188.8.131.52 04:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Does the Black Eyed Peas reference really need to be in here? Many people have denounced gang violence; to list off every reference condemning the crips for such actions would be ridiculous. It seems to promote the musical group for spouting off a straw man argument; after all, who would really stand up and say, "I support gang violence"?
I agree with whoever wrote thisJmm6f488 02:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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There is a mistake in the article I believe. In Tookies memoairs he states that crips was initially spelled "crib" and that it later evolved into the word crip because it was often misunderstood. And bloods believe that crips are called CRabz. He also states that it does not stand for "Community Revolution In Progress" as also mentioned in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
According to a National Geographic program, the gang was originally called named the Cribs because they were so young and carried canes to look like Al Capone style gangsters. Walking with canes made people think they were crippled and so the name was changed crips. Not sure which is right but I think the statement in the article is missing a citation anyways. Also, I'm fairly sure "Community Revolution in Progress" is incorrect. Anyone with more information would be very helpful. Crushacm (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I've seen the "Community Revolution In Progress" meaning in a History Channel special on the Crips. If I could find it, I'd post a link, but sadly I cannot find it.220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone needs to provide reliable sources to the section on entertainers with Crip affiliations. Other than the Christian anti-gang website cited, I can't find anything linking Afroman to the Crips, except for one lyric from the song "Back 2 School" where he refers to himself as "the educated crip." Afroman is know for ironic and humorous lyrics, and I don't think this is enough to assume he's actually a Crip. Please read up on the Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources. Toscaesque (talk) 20:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
-I agree, the references do need to be fixed, but there seems to be a trend of attempted whitewashing of the Entertainer's section, and I do not understand why. One does not completely remove a section because a couple of the sources might be strained. Instead, please remove entries which have broken or spurious sources.Out of Phase User (talk) 10:41, 26 March 2008 (EST)
Within the first paragraph there is a line that goes "Crips were not founded by 15-year-old Raymond Washington and Stanley Tookie Williams III . The Crips and Bloods are the children of political groups such as the Black Panthers, Slausons, and US Orginization." This is obviously a slur against the Crips and I recommend it for deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
My understanding of the changing from the name of "Cribs" to the name of "Crips" was not that they were walking with canes and appeared crippled; but that it is common practice not to use the letter "B" as it pertains to the blood gang. I beleive this should be included in the article. -30 August 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpop7ole (talk • contribs) 06:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
if you knew any knowledge about Crip we started bkefore bkloods were created and the name was changed to Crips bkefore slobkz were created. hol' up, i'm confused. are the bloodz n' nortenos allies? crips n' surenos allies? bloodz n' crips rivals? nortenos n' surenos rivals?22.214.171.124 (talk) 02:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC) they pretty much shoot at each other anyway so these "alliences" are not really real
In jail the nortenos tend to side with the balck gangs and the surenos tend to side with the white gangs_________________________
Here is a reference to the ref request about how the pirus and bloods formed the aliance (don't know where/how to put it)
I believe that the crip gang is very weak in having to fight it's own group members. It shouldn't matter where you are our what stand of the gang you are, it matters that you are all walking around with the same colour. Don't kill an allie if they believe what you believe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 05:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Most so called Crips put their hood before the Crip beliefs. That is why when you see gangs write out there hoods the set always comes first(i.e w/sRSC=west side rollin sixties crip) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 09:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Money and greed can break even the strongest bonds- and when crack and drug traffiking became big business during the 1980's, that's what began the Crips on Crips warfare. It's like snake-eating snakes; they don't care if their next meal comes in the form of their own kind- they gotta eat. Same with The Crips. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 00:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
The 8 Ball Alliance started in the midwest after the 8 ball alliance that occurred in Kansas City, Missouri in 1993 during a gang peace summit. It started because the local Crip sets and Gangster Disciples were getting savagely attacked by the local Blood sets Vice Lords,and Black P Stones. The Bloods and Black P Stones in Kansas City would naturally team up against the other gangs because of their alliance they already had in Los Angeles. So the local Crip sets and Gangster Disciples decided to create a secondary alliance and unite under the 8 ball, which is what you get when you put the "C" hand sign and a "Pitch Fork" hand sign together. This alliance caused the Crips who participated in it to adopt the 6 point star with their own meaning and create their own literature to implement the 6 point star in. In light of the Crip and Gangster Disciple alliance, the local Blood sets and Almighty Black P Stones in Kansas City, Missouri took it upon themselves to form a secondary alliance also. The name for this alliance was called the Almghty Flame Alliance (AFA). This alliance caused the Bloods who participated in it to adopt the 5 point star with their own meaning and create their own literature to implement the 5 point star in. All Crips and Gangster Disciples under the 8 ball alliance were to add new teachings to their lit called "The Universal 8 Ball Doctrine". In addition to the The Universal 8 Ball Doctrine, Crips sets under the 8 Ball Alliance have created the "8 Ball Crip Bible". All Bloods and Black P Stones under the AFA alliance were to add "Red Flame Manifesto" to their lit. Although these secondary alliances were non-official local alliances that were not embraced in and held no weight in the motherlands of Chicago and Los Angeles, these alliances were still widely embraced by almost everyone else and quickly spread.
The 8 Ball Alliance and Almighty Flame Alliance was firmly established by the end of 1993 throughout the United States. Many (not all) Chicago and Los Angeles motherland natives have shown great animosity and hatred towards these new alliances due to the many changes in the structure and ways of the Bloods, Crips, Gangster Disciples, and Almighty Black P Stones that participate in these alliances have made from their origins. Eventhough the Gangster Disciples strictly represent to the Right, the 8 ball Crip sets have continued to represent to the left like the original Crip sets. This shows that even though they have made the secondary alliance with the Gangster Disiples, Crips have no interest in being part of the Folks Nation. Not all Crips represent the 6 point star. Only Crips under the 8 ball alliance represent the 6 point star. The 8 Ball alliance has also caused members from both the Crips and Gangster Disciples to splinter off and create new hybrid Crips / Gangster Disciple combination gangs that are known to represent to the Left side like the Crips in Los Angeles, but have the word "Disciple" attached to their set name
Some Crip sets and Gangster Disciples that were under the 8 ball alliance have been known to "Crack" the 8 Ball, which is dropping the 8 Ball alliance and going to war with each other. Once those individuals decide to crack the 8 Ball, they revert back to their origins and drop all 8 Ball lit from their teachings. Cracking the 8 Ball does not affect the Hybrids.
Some Crip sets and Gangster Disciples are still under the 8 ball alliance in certain states in the Midwest, South, and East Coast. Many Crips and Gangster Disciples participate and join up in "stacking" (throw up gang signs) together. In the South, Crips and Gangster Disciples are considered "cousins". — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeRoyddrick (talk • contribs) 18:36, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Nortes can be allies with crips, crips are blue and nortes are red (soo) some crips sets dont like surenos ..Theres a set in california called C-14 were there is crips and nortes unite,they both hate bloods and surenos.
Nortenos are allied with Crips, it was established in prison. The only Crip sets Nortenos dont get along with are the ones based in LA - however, any Crip set in Northern California or any other state is under a Nuetral or Strong alliance with Nortenos. C-14 is in fact a way of supporting the Crip-Norteno alliance. Azteca Imperio 21:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I think more needs to be added to this article to make it comprehensive. The larger affiliation of Crip is broken down at various levels with various alliances, beefs, geographical situations, etc and I think not having something on that leaves this article less than fully informative:
For instance, Los Angeles-area Crip gangs are divided into two larger groups of alliances - the "deuces" and the "trays" (deuce meaning two, tray meaning three). Gangs like the Rollin 60's, Darkside 40's and other sets are "deuce" Crips while gangs like Eight-Tray Gangstas are "tray"-affiliated. I've heard a variety of reasons for the distinction but it should be noted that "deuces" and "trays" are usually in opposition to each other. Also there are affiliations such as NHood's or Nieghborhood Crips...to which the "Rollin" gangs are a part, along with gangs such as 67 Neighborhood Crip or Lynwood Neighborhood Crip (NHC). There are also the Gangsta Crip gangs such as the afore-mentioned eight-tray Gangstas, and there were once Hoover (or Hoova) Crip gangs who broke away from the Crips and now refer to themselves as Hoova Criminals. Crip gangs also break down by geography...there are Watts Crips in Watts (PJ Watts Crip, Grape Street Watts Crip, Front Hood Watts Crip), Compton Crips in Compton (Twilight Zone Compton Crip, Nutty Blocc Compton Crip, Park Village Compton Crip), East Coast Crips on the Eastside of South LA (the name East Coast Crips predates the spread of Crips to the actual East Coast of the United States) and the West Coast Crips on the West Side of Long Beach. It also should be noted that some of the most violent gang rivalries in Los Angeles County are between Crip sets and other Crip sets, such as the Rollin 60's/83 Gangstas rivalry in South LA or the Insane Crip/Rollin 20's Crip rivarly in Long Beach.
I think also the expansion of the Crips and the varying forms they take on in different areas should be noted...Crips on the East Coast tend to have a more organized structure than their West Coast predecessors, and the Crip-Crip rivalries that dominate in Los Angeles are rare even in other parts of California.
I think there should be at least a brief mention of the relationship between the decline and migration of Crip gangs with the greater trends of growing Chicano presence in traditional African-American neighborhoods and "Black Flight" to suburbs and other parts of the country.
Finally I think some of the more known sets of crips should be identified and given seperate articles or stubs as they are usually identified seperately by law enforcement and the judicial system in gang injunctions and targeted enforcement efforts. For instance:
Eight Tray (83) Gangsta Crip in South LA
Rollin' 60's Crip in South LA
Raymond Ave Crip in Athens and Altadena
Insane Crip and Rollin 20 Crip in Long Beach
West Coast Crip in Long Beach
PJ Watts Crip and Grape Street Watts Crip in Watts
Shot Gun Crip in Gardena
Six-Deuce (6/2) Dimond Crip Gang in Fresno, Merced, Modesto and Stockton
Garrett Street Crip in Fresno
97th Street Eastcoast Crips —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC) Modoc Boyz Crip in Fresno —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 08:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
There's a guy who's done alot of scholarly research on gangs especially Black gangs in LA. His name is Alex Alonso and he appeared in the "Bastards of the Party" documentary and runs a website www.streetgangs.com with alot of info and links to news articles and other sources of info you can use to keep the editors off your back. I dont see how it can be disputed that the Crips are one of the largest street gang affiliations in the U.S. though. Some people...
An editor added a name of celebs that are Crips. While I know the list is mostly correct, we might have a BLP issue since it's not referenced. Labelling a living person as a member of a criminal organization without references is a problem, don't you think? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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I see Wikipedia has produced an article about the Crips,and the word 'gun' does not appear anywhere in the article. It's well-known that the Crips are usually armed with guns,and they have been implicated in many execution-style slayings,drive-by shootings,and so on. Since your Wikipedia article about the Crips does not mention guns,it serves to whitewash the entire Crip phenomenon. This article is strongly biased in favor of the Crips,it is one of the most outstanding examples of biased writing I have ever seen. An article about the Crips that does not contain the word 'gun'! Your article makes the Crips seem like a bunch of innocent little boys scouts. ----Anthony Ratkov —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 08:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Now, this is really idiotic. The article starts like this: "The Crips are a primarily, but not exclusively, African American gang [...]"
So, does that mean that black people from Australia etc. can join, too? No, it is supposed to mean that you don't have to have black skin to join. But it doesn't say that. PC-speak is just sick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 09:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I was going to comment on this too. I don't disagree that the gang is "primarily African American," but is it really necessary to include this information? Especially in the opening sentence? An article describing a white gang or other group of white people would not begin by explaining that the group is made up of white people... Why is this any different? 188.8.131.52 (talk) 04:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
With regards to the above...check out this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Brotherhood. States in its opening line that the Aryan Brotherhood is a white crime gang. However, reading into the article it states that it's actually not exclusively white. So...I think the broad generality of saying the Crips is predominately an African American gang is appropriate and that this generality isn't unique with regards to Wiki articles. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 08:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, the Crips are, in fact, a black-only gang. I served 5 years in prison and believe me they are nothing besides. There are a lot of suburban kids, even inner-city kids, who try to claim "Crips." They are not (and never were) Crips. You could never link a Crip gang that is not 100% black to the original Crips. In fact, the Crips are pretty much a racist gang. They're a black gang. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 01:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I know Crips and they say its a black gang
Their name stands for Community Revolution In Progress it has nothing to do about Stanley Williams not pronouncing crib right —Preceding unsigned comment added by AssassinOfLife (talk • contribs) 04:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't really think it belongs here. There are literally hundreds of different sets within the Crips and I don't see the real need to list a couple that don't really have any real notability. Opinions? Niteshift36 (talk) 13:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The number is world wide extremly small it's sould be univers bigger! Like 100,000 or more you have bloods and crips in all the big cities in Canada like Toronto, Montreal, New Zealand (Mainly Maori) Ottawa and more!
Oh that number only is the number of all the gang members in Montreal!
There is a local "version" of the Crips in the Philippines, known to exist in Cebu and Bohol, maybe other areas also. They do intensely dislike another local gang called "Bloods" and members of both sides have killed each other. Whether this "Filipino version" of the Crips has any connection to the Crips in the USA is unknown by me. Here's a link to an article regarding them http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/05/17/news/wanted.crips.leader.nabbed.html most of what i know is from what my friends tell me and the graffiti that i've seen around Cebu and Bohol. They seem to be widespread in these areas. I'm told by friends that this local "Crips" do identify with the Crips of America, but I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned on the wikipedia Crips article. Dr Gwapo (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I know it is a bit trivial but the fact that for a brief moment in history the Crips and Bloods worked together on a project is pretty noteworthy. I myself don't know much about it. That's why I came to the page. -- Eddy (talk|contribs) 13:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
This article still perpetuates the notion that there is a single Crip gang that is made up of hundreds of sets. In reality, there are several distinct Crip gangs (many with sub-sets or clicks) that make up a very loose federation of Crips. The same can be said of Blood gangs. There is no "The Crips," and "The Bloods." There are however, several gangs that claim Crip, and several gangs that claim Blood18.104.22.168 (talk) 04:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
See Date Correction...
Tookie Williams stated that the gang was not formed in 1969: "In 1971, I met Raymond Lee Washington (may he rest in peace) and we ultimately decided to unite our homeboys from the west and east sides of South Central to combat neighboring street gangs. (An erroneous grapevine suggests that the Crips formed in 1969, or even as early as the 1950s.)" 
What did happen in 1969, was that Raymond Washington formed one of the two gangs that merged to become the Crips, the Baby Avenues street gang, which became the Avenue Cribs.  ~Devine25 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 21:22, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
In the article they say they changed cribs to crips because they were walking with cane!?
It's Crips because they cannot use the letter "B"... because of Bloods
In fact, they always change the "B" for a "P" because its a "b" upside down ( p)
( "b" upside down means a dead blood)
Why is it that the Crips numbers are only 30,000 here but many accounts say they are the largest black gang in America found in nearly or in every state and is much bigger then Vice Lords and among others. So shouldn't there numbers be like 65'000 specially since Crips in America alone outnumber Bloods 3-4 to 1 and their numbers are est 20-25'000 so shouldn't about 60-65'000 be the real number —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 07:05, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey you guys shouldn't both Crips and Bloods be labeled as worldwide because they have known sets in Africa(mainly southwest), Britain and France, Australia, the Caribbean islands, New Zealand(mainly Maori area), Samoa and other islands and both gangs are known to widely recruit such nationalities(see Crips in Alaska). So I think with so many of them located in other countries though for the most part relatively small minus the Caribbeans and certain african countries mainly in South Africa who are allied with the Numbers gang should be labelled as worldwide —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 07:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Obviously this particular group of gangs has been widely publicized, but the article doesn't touch on how this happened. I just saw a comic reference to a group of Crips robbing a "potsickle vendor" (about 45 minutes into the film) in Darktown Strutters (1975). I've also seen the claim that Colors (film) was blamed for pushing the gang colors and wars into a national phenomenon. I'd assume a lot of this was just that whatever was closest to Hollywood got into the movies, but it'd be interesting to see such a section properly documented. Wnt (talk) 06:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't know about outside California but Crips aren't full on enemies with Surs with the few known beefs with Surs are Venice 13, Florencia 13 and CVLS 13. Both gangs actually get along for the most part because both gangs hate Bloods. So I vote Sureneos are either takin off as enemies or "(few sets)" placed beside it--184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
In LA and among other place Sur and Crips are known to ally with eachother to fight the bloods or to a smaller extent other Surs. Example Both R30s Harlem Crips and ERS-13 both are allied to fight against R20s Bloods, BPS and various mexican gangs near by minus 18st who are allied to Harlem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 00:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
reliable sources please. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Towards the end of the article the phrase ""Crab" is the most disrespectful epitaph to call a Crip, and can warrant fatal retaliation." is used. The word "epitaph" is completely wrong in the context, seems to me the original author meant "epithet". Can't change it myself due to semi-protection. JManHobbs (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
The article states Initially Crips leaders did not occupy leadership positions, but were recognized as leaders because of their personal charisma and influence. So if they didn't occupy leadership positions how under God can they be called leaders? Surely by definition occupying a leadership position is what makes somebody a leader. I would have changed this myself but I don't get the meaning of the sentence at all so could somebody who does get what is being infered edit this to make some sense please. Keresaspa (talk) 02:43, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Tookie Williams stated that the gang was not formed in 1969: "In 1971, I met Raymond Lee Washington (may he rest in peace) and we ultimately decided to unite our homeboys from the west and east sides of South Central to combat neighboring street gangs. (An erroneous grapevine suggests that the Crips formed in 1969, or even as early as the 1950s.)" 
What did happen in 1969, was that Raymond Washington formed one of the two gangs that merged to become the Crips, the Baby Avenues street gang, which became the Avenue Cribs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
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yO Homie i Want to add the sets to crips
Kellyparkgreenleaf (talk) 04:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Not a surprise, we have another purge by Niteshift36.
The definition of Uniform should be self explanatory. However, there is a dispute that a specific color preference of clothing to show an affiliation with a specific organization does not include the color Blue with Crips I disagree, and believe it is in fact uniformity, and was intended as such.